Interview with Pearl Tan by AAFFN’s Indigo Willing
Pearl Tan is the director of Pearly Productions, creating independent films and producing videos for businesses and arts organisations. Her work focuses on diversity, as the creator of YouTube series ‘Minority Box’ and as co-chair of the Equity Diversity Committee. She graduated from the NIDA Acting course in 2005. Originally from Western Australia, she also holds a Communications degree majoring in Media Studies from Edith Cowan University. In 2013 she received a Business Leader Postgraduate Scholarship from the University of Sydney to undertake a Master of Commerce, specialising in Strategy, Innovation and Entrepreneurship. In 2009 she received a Mike Walsh Fellowship to attend the New York Film Academy. She teaches filmmaking at NIDA, screen acting at the Actors Centre Australia and has worked behind the scenes for Channel 7, Channel 9, Network 10, Perth’s 96fm and Faith Martin Casting. Her credits as an actor include Motel (Sydney Theatre Company/Wharf 2Loud), Love’s Triumph (Darlinghurst Theatre) feature films Home Song Stories, Sleeping Beauty and for television Channel 9’s Sea Patrol and ABC’s Nowhere Boys. Follow @PearlyProductns on twitter or visit http://www.pearlyproductions.com for more information.
Tell us about one ‘easy’ and one, ‘oh, so awkward’ experience you had when you first started out in the screen scene?
My first gig out from NIDA was a small role as a nurse in Home Song Stories, directed by the amazing Tony Ayres. I was acting so theatrically and in a hospital scene, pushed a food trolley out in this huge arc towards “the audience” (the camera) then to the patient and Tony said, just move it like you would normally, directly to the patient… and I thought, oh yeah, duh… that felt ‘oh, so awkward’. In the same job there was a scene where I didn’t have any scripted lines, but they wanted us to impro. Joan Chen’s character was in the scene, so I threw a “Hello Aunty” at her, which she had to respond to… so now I can say I’ve acted with her. That was ‘easy’!
Can you describe the first and last time you looked at the screen and thought, yes, this director or actor has made me want to get out there and do more in terms of promoting and seeing diversity on the screen?
My drive to create diverse content comes from quite a personal space. I realised, through the types of roles I was getting auditions for, my range as an actor in Australia was limited by my ethnicity. Seeing the many diverse and immensely talented graduates coming out of drama schools, I really wanted to contribute by working towards expanding the industry to allow them more access to professional work.
Tell us about one of the most ridiculously silly or offensive roles or characters you can recall so far that made you shake your head and feel very frustrated concerning stereotypes about diversity and ethnicity?
I won’t mention specifics, but I do shake my head and feel frustrated when I see a talented actor, from a minority ethnicity, working in an accent, when it seems irrelevant to the story, and I’m aware that their natural accent is Australian. It happens frequently.
What is a classic good example of a film and casting with diversity that isn’t token or stereotypical for you?
Deborah Mailman in ‘The Secret Life of Us’. One of the rare instances on Australian television where the ethnic heritage of a character wasn’t pertinent or referenced in the major storylines.
As a director and filmmaker you have covered comedy and breaking away from ‘dominant’ narratives of family with the short film Babycake, which features a lesbian couple and a gay couple starting a family. The cast is multicultural. And you are in the driving seat as director. Can you share any positive feedback have you had?
My favourite feedback is from gay and lesbian couples who have had children and find the story amusing. One lesbian mother even told me that they were almost offended that the characters almost naturally conceived and were relieved when they didn’t (spoiler!), which makes me laugh. No one talks about the diversity of the cast, which I think is a good thing, as it’s somewhat irrelevant to the story. Some people say it’s quite risky and done in a unique style, which I’ll take as a compliment!
The community of actors in Australia is a richly diverse one, although minorities tend not to get an abundance of the screen time. With Minority Box you have so far covered the challenges that four different populations experience as actors via short interviews (with at least 6 to 8 in each episode): Asian Australians, Indian Australian males, African Australian females and Middle aged women. What are some of the universal issues these actors face?
What I’ve enjoyed the most from creating Minority Box is meeting and talking to the actors off screen. What is remarkable about all of them is their tenacity and acceptance of insecurity that comes with being an actor. I see a beautiful vulnerability in all of them that is a strong, passionate, unapologetic craving to tell great stories and affect people’s lives. Almost all of them have aspirations to create their own work and I get really excited when actors take the power back and leap into producing (hopefully) quality, utterly unique and robust characters.
Keeping the focus for now to Minority Box, what main type of audiences would you like to watch this series and why?
Currently the audience are actors and industry people who have an interest in diversity. They are a wonderfully supportive audience and I am grateful for their eyeballs and subscriptions! I would love for this to open up more widely so that general Australian audiences can have an awareness of the depth of diverse talent in our country and start to demand with ticket sales and their remote controls more uniquely Australian (as opposed to stereotypically Australian) stories.
You were recognised as a finalist for “Best Factual Series” and shortlisted for the “Innovation Award” and “Best Collaboration” Award for Minority Box. What other types of positive outcomes and feedback have you got so far?
Generally people are very encouraging and excited to see something positive being made (without it being just a whinge-fest). They always ask me when the next episode will be out, which is difficult because I’m doing it in my living room, in my spare time… so it takes me around 6 months to complete one short video! My favourite thing about it is when I hear that actors have been cast from the series (which has happened a couple of times!), or that directors or producers note that they will be more considerate of diverse performers as a result.
Pearly Productions and the Symes Group are launching the Independent Theatre Diversity Fund. What’s the main goals of this fund and why did it become necessary to begin?
The main goals of this fund are to give talented independent producers a way of putting on a show with more ease. We will provide a small cash budget, rehearsal space, a video trailer, stills photography, marketing and social media strategy advice and anything else that I can think of and can find support for! There are wonderful examples of great indigenous work being produced (Sapphires, Redfern Now, Black Comedy etc) that are a result of financial support and mentorship from places like Screen Australia and the Australia Council. Learning from this model, I’d love to support diverse work in a more general way to allow more opportunities for development of these unique storytellers. It also aims to bring awareness at a grassroots level, as it will encourage independent producers seeking financial and in-kind support for their show to analyse whether their production includes diversity; if the answer is yes they can apply and if it’s a no, and they now have a fresh awareness of their lack of diversity… and that in itself is a good outcome.
Who are some of the people you’ve been able to work with who have pushed you hard to achieve and made you further believe in yourself and your vision for the screen?
I don’t think I need much pushing to achieve… I’m probably my own best and worst pusher! My incredibly talented friends are incredibly supportive and inspire me when they take their own risks in creating stories that are important to them. Every time I see a talented actor from a diverse background kicking butt, it inspires me to create more opportunities in anyway I can to get them out there in the hope that there will be more visibility of minorities in the mainstream eventually.
What’s next for you?
I will continue to chip away at producing many more Minority Box videos. I’m currently smack bang in the middle of a Master of Commerce, majoring in Strategy, Innovation and Entrepreneurship, on a Business Leader Postgraduate Scholarship. This is giving me the skills to create things like the Independent Theatre Diversity Fund and with 10% of Pearly Production profits now pledged back to diversity in the arts, I hope to expand my business and find more innovative ways to generate more diverse visibility and share more inclusive stories. I’m also getting employed as a director more and more with diverse content, which is really satisfying and fun, and look forward to collaborating with more passionate and like-minded people to create more momentum. As Co-Chair of the Equity Diversity Committee alongside Bali Padda and as a National Performers Committee member with Actors Equity Australia we have a few campaigns around diversity planned that are quite fresh and positive… so much… so much to do, so much we can chip away at changing, it’s all very exciting!
View the short film Babycake below:
Andy Trieu interview with AAFFN’s Indigo Willing
Three-time Australian Champion Martial Artist Andy Trieu expanded his repertoire from competing in tournaments, to performing in roles across stage and screen. Currently he is co-hosting on Australian TV and radio show SBS PopAsia, and is also featuring on TV shows Kitchen Whiz (GO!), Maximum Choppage (ABC2), If You Are the One (SBS2) Rescue (Ch9), and Pyramid (Ch9). Andy was also apart of the top 50 CLEO Bachelors of the year and was a runner up for the national search for hosts on ABC3.
Andy is an ambassador for the charity All Together Now and an advocate of the National Stroke Foundation. He holds a double degree in International Relations and Business (Australian National University).
Q & A
Typecasting was a common theme and lack of opportunities. But I think the industry is definitely changing and more great things are happening in that area.
It’s been a while since we’ve caught up but last time was when you were a special guest panellist at our AAFFN’s inaugural event in 2011. Let’s get started! When you were growing up did your family always feel you would gravitate towards the entertainment world and if so, what were the long-term ways they’ve always been able to support you to do that? Or did you surprise everyone one day and say ‘I want to get involved with TV and films’ and how did that go?
I was a very noisy and naughty kid so I think my parents hoped that I would get into a field where I could let that out. Mum originally told me I should be a doctor and I said “Okay, I’ll be a doctor like Jackie Chan”. She just had to nod. I told her if I got on TV one day I would say “Mum I’m on TV”. That maybe sealed the deal haha.
Mum did very subtle things to show her support, like buying a TV. I just had to then remind her to watch it. Dad bought a TV in his business and would tune into Kitchen Whiz everyday and when customers would walk in he would say, “Well what do you know my son is on TV” as if it were coincidental. So from their actions they showed me that they cared.
Many kids and indeed, big kids and adults dream of presenting and acting in some of the stuff you’ve done but don’t know how to start. What was one of the silliest things you did when you first started, and what was one of the most positive things that worked for you in the beginning?
Between working on the shows SBS PopAsia and Kitchen Whiz I can safely say I’ve ticked off all the things that you SHOULDN’T do on TV. A typical week on each show involves rolling down hills, smashing cakes on my face, testing stupid superstations, and making a fool of myself in front of celebrities.
On a random note…
I went into an audition for Disney’s Power Rangers once and I learned the wrong script. That was stupid. I’ve then learnt that preparation is key!
One of the most positive things that worked for me in the beginning which also sounds very cliché, was to be myself.
You exude a strong and positive energy, and your screen presence has a lot of larrikin going on. The tone is down to earth and you are not afraid to have a laugh. In what ways can humour help bridge differences or further connect people together?
The great thing about being a childish silly ninja on TV is that it’s not very far from me in real life… I find that humour helps me get a message across to an audience in a more fun and engaging way. People generally have their guards down more when they laugh.
What are some of the more serious roles you’ve played? And what’s a dream ‘serious’ role that you would like to play one day?
I always wanted to be a Power Ranger! I came so close so I don’t think I’m ever going to let that one go! Disney I hope you are reading this.
I played a killer named Sef Gonzales on a channel 9 show called Crime Investigations Australia. My siblings were scared of me for about a week.
Also I’ve played the cliché Asian bad gangster guy on the movie Wolverine and Tomorrow When the War Began.
Who are some people in the Asian Australian community who have been influential to you, including those you’ve worked with and those who you have not so far?
I’m fortunate to know the lovely Poh (Poh’s Kitchen) and Anh Doh (TV personality) and I love them as presenters. They are awesomely down to earth people. I love their shows and their work ethic.
I would love to work with TV personality Luke Nguyen! I send him a tweet or two every now and then hoping he will notice me but he is a busy man haha. When I started at SBS I went around the building searching every corner for him …#creepy lol.
Well everyone wants to say hi to Luke – hi from us at AAFFN as well dude. But enough creeping and fanboy and fangirl time over Mr Nguyen. We are busy busy too lol. If we can reflect back to the AAFFN launch event, what were some of the common challenges your peers have faced?
Typecasting was a common theme and lack of opportunities. But I think the industry is definitely changing and more great things are happening in that area.
What are some of the ways scriptwriters, TV and filmmakers could be more inclusive of diversity?
I think this can be done in casting and in finding great stories in the community that include diversity. GO ASIANS!
In what ways do mates and mentors in the industry currently help you grow as a presenter and actor?
My team at SBS PopAsia are really awesome! My co-host Jamaica Dela Cruz and our producers Maddy Fryer and Matthew Smith are really experienced and creative. They put time in every week to work on helping me grow as a presenter on TV and radio so I’m really thankful for that. This is done through air checks and constant feedback. They also allow me room to take risks. Something they will probably regret haha.
You were a finalist in the CLEO Bachelor of the Year awards, and your mate Thien Nguyen won last year. What was that experience like?
Being chosen, as a Cleo Bachelor is a real honour because it helps all Asian guys in one form or another be seen in a different light, not just a stereotype.
More importantly it helps you get a date lol.
Asian Australian men have not been as prominent as models, presenters and so on until recently. What’s changed to make more opportunities to get involved in those professions and roles arise?
I think it’s because of the increase of great Asian related content from food to Asian pop music. More great content brings more opportunities. To get involved in these projects still requires hard work and persistence in the industry in my opinion.
Are there any community or charity projects that have been close to your heart and that you’ve been involved with directly or would like to give a shout out too?
I’m currently an advocate for the National Stroke Foundation and an Ambassador for All Together Now, Australia’s only national charity that has a sole focus of addressing racism. Check them out at http://alltogethernow.org.au
Let’s talk about the Kitchen Ninja character, one of the roles you’ve done for a while and which looks like lots of fun and reaches a big mainstream audience. What’s some of the best experiences about being in the role?
I love being a silly Ninja because I get to be silly and ahh…..be a Ninja… that just about sums it up.
But also being able to have creative control over the character, doing Martial Arts and destroying food is very fun. I’ve also learnt so much about cooking and I’ve got a really great co-host Alice Zaslavsky (Masterchef) who keeps me in check.
You are also part of the SBS Pop Asia family now. What are some of the most fun aspects of your role? Do you and Jamaica think up fun ways to present or do you get to do a lot of the show improvised?
As a SBS PopAsia presenter we get to meet celebrities! Also create content and interact with people that love the genre! There is definitely a hard work element to it though, on a typical day Jamaica and I come up with content with the producers for our radio show (Download the PopAsia app to listen 5-7pm) whilst writing content for our TV show and then we have to go on air or start filming for the TV program. When we begin shooting there’s not too much room to improvise but we take as many risks as we can.
One of your other current and big projects you’re involved with is Maximum Choppage for ABC2 TV. You are working with an amazing team, including a who’s who of Asian Australian talent on and behind the screen. Can you tell us about your involvement?
In Maximum Choppage I play a villain named Fury. He is a charismatic, ambitious leader of a gang called the V-teks in Cabramatta and he is determined to take Lawrence’s character down. I had so much fun learning the Martial Arts and doing scenes with people that I use to Fanboy over like Lawerence Leung lol.
Oh I want to congratulate Timothy Ly and thank Matchbox Pictures for getting this project up and giving us all opportunities, especially Julie Eckersley. Starts on Feb 24th on ABC 2.
What is one of the funniest things that’s ever happened in your work?
When I was new at SBS I walked into the wrong studio and sat in the newsroom thinking that’s where we filmed SBS PopAsia. I later got kicked out!
What are you working on next?
Wow you are going to regret you asked this question because I’m about to shamelessly promote everything!
Jamaica and I are hosting a marathon of the hit Chinese TV show If You Are the One on SBS2 on FEB 14th, Prime time at 8:30PM
At SBS PopAsia we are going live and travelling down to Melbourne to do some outside broadcasts on the 19th of FEB at Fed Square.
Also I worked on three films that are coming out this year Unindian, starring cricketer Bret Lee, Alex and Eve, directed by Peter Andrikidis, and Me and my Mates vs the Zombie Apocalypse, featuring US star Jim Jeffries, Alex Williamson, Greg Fleet. SBS PopAsia is back every Sunday on TV 9am on SBS2. Oh, and Kitchen Whiz is on telly Saturday’s at 12pm on channel GO!
What is one of the biggest surprises in your career so far?
Biggest surprise ever was when someone came up to me on the street and asked me for a photo and a signature. I was so shocked that I asked them for a photo and a signature. My Mum still doesn’t believe me.
See segment from SBS popAsia at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7-TY5CgJbk
Meet Thien Nguyen: Talking about Cleo Bachelor of the Year 2014, working hard, community fundraising & more
WHO: Thien Nguyen was born in Australia. He is a black belt in Hapkido as well as the equivalent for Northern Shaolin Kung fu and studied at Dong Thanh Alliance Training Academy. He is also the founder of Hard Personal Training and an ambassador the Lenovo and The Protein Bread Co. As an actor, he won an award for the ‘Best Villian’ at the short action film festival in LA and was nominated for best actor for the feature film Change of Our Lives. AAFFN is stoked to talk to Thien Nguyen for our last feature of the year for 2014. Interview below by Indigo Willing:
To reach my dreams, I break down the task that I have to completed and just do one thing at a time, day after day. It is easy to be discouraged if we want results too quickly. It is critical to love what you do. Never use money as a motivator. Follow your passion is my motto. Success will flow from passion.
This has been a big year for you, including winning the Cleo Bachelor of the Year 2014. We are also very proud to have seen Andy Trieu, another Asian Australian with Vietnamese heritage, be a nominee for the Cleo Bachelor of the Year a couple of years before. Amongst your many other achievements, one of the perks is that your high profiles open up the door for many more multicultural Australian males to be in the modelling, presenting and acting worlds. In terms of other Asian Australians with high profiles in the media, entertainment and arts worlds, who are some of your mentors, role models and inspirations who you feel opened doors for you?
It has been an amazing year. I was Andy’s Personal Trainer not long ago, and we spoke about how great it was that we were both nominated to be a Cleo Bachelor. To actually win the competition was something beyond my wildest dreams! I have to thank my family for the support. My mum, dad, brother and sister in law, without them nothing would be possible. Maria Tran and Trung Ly have been always there to support me in Martial Arts and Acting. Both are very motivated and are inspiring people. I have never seen anyone else that is so dedicated to their craft. Thang Ngo who is a food blogger for Noodlies is my mentor which I also owe a lot to. He has helped me with my direction and has kept me focused and driven.
One of the great things about the Vietnamese community is their fundraising not only for Viet related causes, but also for the general community of Australians. Like when the bushfires hit, and floods hit, the Vietnamese community got right in there to lend a helping hand to everyone. What kinds of charity work and fundraising do you do, and why is it an important part of how you spend your time and use your profile?
I really love how the Vietnamese community gets together to help anyone in need. I have always vowed to use any success that I have to be able to help others that are less fortunate.
I run my own business, Hard Personal Training. Through this I have run charity events for The Fred Hollows Foundation, The Children’s Sunrise Villages and am currently organising an event for Bear Cottage. I believe that every little bit counts. I have also become an ambassador for Father Chris Riley’s Youth Off The Streets. There will be a campaign for 2015 which I am fortunate to be apart off.
The best thing in life to me is to be able to give and help others as much as possible. Very few people are ‘overnight successes’. One of the keys to success for most people is hard work.
What’s a typical day’s hard work for you and how do you keep positive and motivated?
It is quite normal to have good and bad days. The key to being motivated for me is to have a vision that is greater than yourself.
I want to make and impact on the world and to be able to help others that don’t have the basic needs to survive or families that are going through tough situations. To reach my dreams, I break down the task that I have to completed and just do one thing at a time, day after day. It is easy to be discouraged if we want results too quickly. It is critical to love what you do. Never use money as a motivator. Follow your passion is my motto. Success will flow from passion.
What projects in the entertainment world have you been working on and can you tell us about one of your favourite memories and some wisdom you took away from them?
Change of Our Lives was a community project that was sponsored by The Cancer Council NSW. The feature film was screened at Hoyts cinemas with over 600 people attending the premier. Being able to connect with passionate people and those that want to make a difference in the world was very memorable for me. I am blessed to have made friends for life though the project and have to credit them for helping me succeed.
What are you working on next?
I am signed now to London Management Group and am waiting for what exciting things that have planned for me. So far it has been parties and photoshoots. I guess things can only get better from here.
If you had a dream project to work on next, say in acting, what type of role would it be and what kind of story?
My dream role is to be in the Fast and Furious series. I have always looked up to the actor that plays the character Han. It would be cool if I could play his little martial art fanatic brother that enters the car scene and gets caught in all sorts of dramas.
What advice would you give anyone wanting to get into the arts, modelling and entertainment world?
Always remember where you came from and the people that got you there. Aside from that, it is a tough world. Keep your head up high, work on your craft and remember that success takes time.
The best thing in life is to be able to give and help others as much as possible.Very few people are ‘overnight successes’. One of the keys to success for most people is hard work.
More broadly, who have been some of the most important people to you in your journey so far?
AAFFN interview with Barton Williams
by Indigo Willing
An orphan from the world’s largest humanitarian adoption program in 1975 called OPERATION BABYLIFT, Huynh Van Cuong as he was known then was airlifted in a cardboard box to Australia. Adopted into an Australian family and raised in Adelaide South Australia, Barton brings a wealth of acting and life experience to his name. With a B.Ed./B.T and as a former professional water skier, surf lifesaver and martial artist Barton has an array of high level specialty skills. Starting at the tender age of 10 years old Barton has been acting in front of the camera and on stage across South Australia and New South Wales. Barton was trained professionally as an actor at ACTT (Actors College of Theatre and Television) and as a TV presenter at NIDA (National Institute of Dramatic Art). Barton has an extensive range of TV (Home & Away Rescue Special Ops), Film (Motherfish & The Battle of Long Tan) and Theatre (A Quiet Night in Rangoon, How to lose sight) credits to his name. In addition to this Barton is a published children’s author and a producer of kids TV show, OFF THE SHELF.
What kinds of challenges have you ever faced being accepted as Aussie boy growing up here?
Having White Anglo Saxon (adoptive) parents, I was exposed to non traditional sports and activities such as acting at a young age, surf life saving ‘nippers’ for kids and water skiing. Whilst I never received a lot of harassment, I did feel like I didn’t belong at times. As all the other so called ‘Asian’ kids did ‘different’ things, it made me feel a little weird.
How has the Vietnam War and your experience as an adopted orphan given you any special direction or insight as an actor and creative artist?
It has allowed me to really understand that behaving like a character overrides how you look as a character. Don’t judge a book by its cover until you see how they behave! Always expect the unexpected and don’t always see the unknown as a bad thing.
You were the subject of a film (Precious Cargo) about your biography as a Vietnamese adoptee. What was it like developing that story with Blue Lucine? How was it knowing someone else would act as you?
Blue Lucine has been pivotal in allowing me to celebrate my adoption. She taught me and through research educated on a things that I have in the past ignored. Seeing other actors act as me or my family was surreal at first but made me incredibly proud too. This was particularly noted because Blue made a point of taking parts of my doco verbatim.
You are also a filmmaker, with a short film ‘To The Rescue’ which recently won the Encouragement Award at The Joy House Film Festival in September 2014 in Sydney. How did that come about and did you draw from your personal experiences as a life saver and having grown up around the beach culture?
Ha ha ha… “To the Rescue” is actual a concept from a show that I use to produce. Yes, as a former active life saver at Coogee I wanted to share the wonderful service that SLSA and Westpac provide every day in order to help keep our community safe.
Who are some of your key influences or inspirations so far as feeling diversity is appreciated on the screen and on stage in Australia?
Where do I start? Khoa Do (Ahn Do’s brother) holds a special place within me, he cast me many years ago in his feature film MOTHERFISH in which I played a Thai Police officer. His gentle nature and creative genius inspires me without a doubt.
Then there are directors like Peter Andrikitis who I love their work and opportunities they provide for casting diversity. Anthony Brandon Wong is the most beautiful and inspiring actor of all time for me. I worked with him briefly on the ABC’s Maximum Choppage which was lovely because prior to that experience it has been during his workshops. Andy Minh Trieu the SBS Pop Asia god and Kitchen Whiz Ninja inspires me daily. His humble warm personality is always so appealing, even since we first worked on a HOT LIES (band) music clip years ago!
Finally, Felino Delloso, the king of screen and TV. This guy is truly amazing, fun, talented and all round great guy. I was blessed to work with him on a play years ago A QUIET NIGHT IN RANGOON and we even worked on Khoa Do’s feature film MOTHERFISH too.
That’s an awesome list, almost a Who’s Who right now of Asian Australian talent. Any other Asian Australians who you recently took away some wisdom from?
The lovely Ivy Mak, worked with her last week, she plays my wife on a new SBS drama called “The Principal”, starring Alex Dimitriades. Ivy taught me that you can be absolutely beautiful, talented, intelligent and a nice person too…!
Let’s broaden the question to more universal themes. Name some other favourite actors of any heritage, films etc and why?
Sooo many… Joel Edgerton and Nash Edgerton, why? Aussie born and bread. Such good physical actors both on the screen and stage. Saw Joel in A streetcar named desire and was in awe!
Cate Blanchett because she is faultless….and soooo grounded…a rarity for such an A-list actress.
Quentin Tarantino and the Coen brothers….why? because they just let their creative juices flourish and go against the norm which in turn creates stories on film that have us on the edge of our seat.
What’s some advice you can give others wanting to get on the screen and represent and tell a story?
Hmmmm……work hard….work hard…and be motivated by the chance of success rather than the fear of failure!
What’s one of your best memories as an actor or director?
Hmmmmm……stage memory would have to be a play I did out in Parramatta with the wickedly talented Polish director Michal Imielski. The production took place in 4 rooms of a house in which guests were led through. One of my scenes involved being pushed up against a glass window…yes…I went through it and it cut my right shoulder….and yes we kept running with it.
Hmmmmmm film/TV…..probably RESCUE SPECIAL OPS when director Jeremy Sims had mistaken me for the stunt driver…lol!
Hmmmmm Producing an episode of my kids show where I ran around with the Sydney Swans at the SCG dressed as the character BOULDER complete with shoulder pads and a wrestling belt and headband!
Barton also recently features in DESENSE
What’s next for you? Where can we see you or your work on the screen or stage?
Just about to head to QLD in 2 days for a war documentary being shot in Queensland. Then in December back to SBS’ new drama THE PRINCIPAL to work with my lovely wife IVY MAK…making out scene…..doh….no jokes…working with her again which will be fun. Small role on Home & Away as Dr. Nugyen which airs in February. Wish they’d give me the doctor role with surfing at Summer Bay?
I also start rehearsing for a play in early 2015 called DEAD TIME written and produced by the lovely and talented Fleur Beaupert….oh and maybe Peter Andrikidis or Quentin Tarantino might ring me next year….ha ha ha ha ha ha
Sure, we sure think those directors need to call, call now!
The likes of Tarantino, and you dear readers, can see Barton and Andy Trieu having a good ol’ biff below:
All photos used were supplied by Mr Williams for this interview.
Looking forward to a new AAFFN Melbourne event planned for 2015. Check out the inspiring speakers & films we featured last time we hit Melbs at the launch of AAFFN in 2011 – diversity is the goods:
ACTORS – MELBOURNE
Graeme de Vallance is a Casting Director with A Cast of Thousands. He is casting two web based pilots in Melbourne and is after people for the following roles. Payment for all these roles all inclusive is $400.
“Newsreader episode – We are looking for new comedic talent for a web series pilot. We are looking for guys (Caucasian) and girls (Asian-Australian/Eurasian background) aged 25-30 who can newsread and have a good sense of comic timing. you will need to be able to speak in a US accent.”
Graeme de Vallance
A Cast of Thousands
p +61 2 8411 1048 | m +61 411 494 040
PO Box 459 Pennant Hills. NSW. 1715. Australia.
www.acastofthousands.com.au – Graeme de Vallance firstname.lastname@example.org
John Green is a skateboarder and filmmaker who resides in Brisbane, QLD. He was born in Ormoc City, in The Philippines and moved to Australia when he was one with his Mother and older Brother. Aged 22, he has been skating for almost 10 years and filming skateboarding videos for 5 years. His work includes for numerous companies and organisations such as Picture Wheels, Hoon Skateboards, Holiday Skateboards, Herstwood Skateboards and Skatebiz (as well as international brands). This includes Co-Filming/Producing a short skate film called “The Grass is Greener” in 2012. He also filmed and edited ‘The Herstwood Video” in 2013 and is currently working on personal projects. Below is an interview he did with AAFFN’s Indigo Willing.
What have you been working on recently?
One thing is “River City Flow” (2014), a project I worked on for a few months, predominately with Gareth Roberston and Andrew ‘Beacho’ Beauchamp. The idea was for the video to be all city footage and all at night. As word got out about the project, more people wanted to be a part of it, so there’s more involved as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VUPhd9uBic
A more current project for me is “The Hype Squad Video” which is a ‘homie video’ of the “Hype Squad”. Basically our skate crew and our friends. It’s due to be released in October/November 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9wQUcYofAw – Promo 3
How and around when did your interest in skateboarding become a major part of who you are?
Growing up I was really into basketball. I started playing at a local club when I was 12. A year later I started skateboarding and did both up until Year 12 (final year of high school). After finishing school and having way more time on my hands I started to skate more and enjoyed playing basketball less. Eventually stopped playing and skateboarding just naturally took over. That’s when the love really started.
My older brother skates. He was the one who got me into it. I remember we had a Tasmanian Devil board, that was the graphic anyway. It was like an old school pool shape, it was rad. We use to play around on that when we were real young down the driveway. Then we both got some crappy K-Mart boards, which sucked. When my brother got into high school he got into it more with his friends and started going to the skatepark on weekends. Eventually I started to tag along after getting some secondhand boards and wheels etc. He still skates now, he’s cool.
Not entirely haha I think they are slowly coming to terms and understanding why as I get older.
When I show my parents some videos I’ve done the first thing they tell me is that what we are doing/done is illegal and we shouldn’t be doing it, it’s funny.
The major challenge in street skating, not only in Brisbane but everywhere, is the police or security. More so security than police I think, they usually try and be a hero and abuse their power when they kick us out of spots. Another challenge I tend to come across while ‘street skating’ especially in the inner city is the public. Some cities and towns are more accepting and don’t really bother you, but in Brisbane it seems like everyone is against it, in my opinion anyway. You get the same old line “This isn’t a skatepark”.
I started filming when I was 16. My parents had some little handy cam which I started taking to the skatepark and filming my friends. I made a few little clips with it, it was fun. I then started to notice the progression of some of my friends and found that I wasn’t as good as they were, nor will I ever be, so…
…I thought why not upgrade my camera and film these guys properly to show the world their amazing talent.
Filming wise, for the last 4 years I’ve been using a Sony VX1000 with a MK1 Extreme Fisheye lens. The VX1000 was made in 1995 designed for the war. This camera was, and should still be, the industry standard for skateboarding. All the videos I grew up watching were filmed on the same camera and one of my main influences and favourite filmer, Beagle, is a strong VX1000 advocate. Now days everything has turned High Definition or ‘HD’ with the progression of technology. For this reason I’ve had to accommodate and buy a Panasonic HVX200 which films in HD and is used by many professional skate filmers.
When editing I use an iMac at home and a Mac Book Pro whilst on trip. I mainly use the Adobe programs – Premiere Pro, After Effects, photoshop etc…
All the good times I’ve spent with all my friends. Travelling to new places and meeting new people. But the best memory I have accompanied by the best feeling ever was during the filming process for “The Grass is Greener” a video a good friend of mine Michael Pearse and I made in 2012. I went out skating with my friend Liam. He had this trick he really wanted to do and the deadline for the video was fast approaching. He ending up trying it with no avail for 3/4 hours non stop and by then the sun, my batteries and both our energy levels were gone so we decided to call it quits. I think we went back a couple days later to try again.
[After] Another 3/4 hour session and still no make I looked at Liam and asked if he wants to keep going or try another day to the reply of ‘last shot’ which never means last shot. Next thing I know he’s rolling down the footpath triumphant. It was amazing.
I try to stay on point with my equipment, making sure everything is working, batteries charged and I have enough tapes to get through the day but there have been times where I’ve slipped up and mid session I’ve run out of batteries or tape and let everyone down.
Usually the biggest challenge is organising everyone! Trying to get them out of bed, ready and out the door every week is hard but all fun in the end.
First and foremost are my friends. They’re the guys putting everything on the line and going through the mental/physical battle of skateboarding. I want the best for them and I try to do all I can to help them succeed and progress.
Not too often, it’s a very low paying ‘JOB’. There are companies out there that help you out and I really appreciate those guys and give them 100% but…
…if you’re not in it for the love or didn’t start filming for that reason you won’t get very far. Same goes for skateboarding as a career as well.
Like anything you start from the bottom and work your way up. Just keep filming your friends or down at the local park and keep striving to out do your last edit. Over time you progress and start to know whats good and whats not. Be cool and down to earth with people you work with, they will like you more which might open up more opportunities. Unfortunately in skateboarding it is a lot about who you know, keep that in mind.
I think musicians are the most alike to skateboarders. Skating and music go hand in hand. I’ve been asked to film music videos and live sets for some of my friends’ bands. Apart from them I would like the reach the general public and make them see skateboarding in a different perspective and take it as an art form with positive outcomes rather than something negative.
I use to play guitar and other instruments growing up, still kind of mess around nowadays but never really have the time to sit down and learn something properly. I do really like taking photos, mainly on film. The whole process of taking a photo and developing it yourself really intrigues me. I always carry around a Canon AE-1 35mm camera, its really fun to use. I’m currently working on putting together a little coffee table book of my photos.
Growing up in Australia definitely changed the food I eat regularly to what I would be eating if I grew up in Asia. I mean I do eat a lot of rice but I can’t go past a Cheese and Bacon meat pie and a beer!
Can’t argue with that statement to close an interview with a quintessential Asian Australian and freshly talented filmmaker not afraid of taking risks and getting out there with a camera. Pies and beer. That’s certainly part of living the dream for all of us.
Look out for John’s future work in “The Hype Squad Video” and more. Watch River City Flow below:
All Ages, Many Wisdoms – Meet Asian Australian actors Charlotte Nicdao, her father Alfred Nicdao and his long time friend Ferdinand Hoang
A special ‘intergenerational’ feature with Charlotte Nicdao and her father Alfred Nicdao, and Alfred’s long-time friend Ferdinand Hoang by AAFFN’s Indigo Willing.
FERDINAND HOANG is known for his work on The Quiet American (2002), Little Fish (2005) and Mao’s Last Dancer (2009). He explains with warm humour and humility that, “I am a chap who tries to be an actor & very thankful am still around after a couple of decades; there is the beard* to prove it – who said only Lawrence Leung can grow facial hair!?
ALFRED NICDAO is an actor, known for The Great Raid (2005), Schapelle (2014) and Loot (2004). He made his screen debut in 1979 as a Sumatran fisherman in the seminal Australian television drama The Sullivans. Other work includes Embassy(1992) as well as in Aussie favourites Neighbours, MDA, Blue Heelers, Stingers, City Homicide and Sea Patrol. Over the years, he has played various Asian ethnicities, and at AFFN we especially love this photo of him as we know him, a true blue quintessential Asian Australian guy, photographed in a Midnight Oil t-shirt.
CHARLOTTE NICDAO is a Melbourne based singer-songwriter and actress. Her acting career began with a lead role in the AACTA nominated children’s series A Gurl’s Wurld which filmed on location in Sydney, Singapore and Germany. She contributed to the soundtrack for the series, co-writing some of the songs and singing on each track. Charlotte has joined ABC dramas The Slap and Time of Our Lives in guest roles, the latter of which featured her performing her original songs in character. In 2013 Charlotte was cast in the NBC prime-time series Camp as Grace – the quirky adopted daughter of a gay couple, who develops a romance with the camp director’s (Rachel Griffiths) son. In 2014 Charlotte will appear in the second season of award winning Australian comedy Please Like Me.! Charlotte studied music at the Victorian College of the Arts and the VCA Secondary school. In 2011 she was a finalist in the prestigious Generations in Jazz Vocal Scholarship. In 2012 Charlotte launched her original pop project Charlotte Nicdao and The Sloth Orchestra, her debut crowd-funded EP will be released later in 2014.
IW: Let’s get an insight into what you’re all currently working on. What’s a project you’ve felt really proud of and artistically enriched from being a part of recently?
My favourite project to date is the SBS drama Better Man, written and directed by Vietnamese/Australian Khoa Do. The lead character, Van Nguyen, is played by Malaysian/Australian Remy Carou. I believe this mini series showed that Asian Australian artists have the skills to deliver high quality drama that tells important stories. Next up, I am about to work on a stage play about people trafficking.
I recently worked on Maximum Choppage and the feature movie Sucker, two separate projects which are completely different, and yet in a quirky kind of way is intrinsically related; a bit like a set of twins who are individual beings and yet share similar genes – hope it makes sense. Also, I will be working on the ABC comedy ‘It’s a Date – series 2’
I’ve recently finished working on Please Like Me! which has been a ridiculously enjoyable experience, not least because the cast and crew were amazing – but also because my character, Jenny, was a complete weirdo and different to any other role I’ve ever approached. It was probably the most challenging project I’ve ever been a part of. Then, I’m about to start work on an independent film that I’m not really allowed to start talking about yet – but I’m having a great time working with the director/writer on my character. The script is exploring a fairly untouched genre for Australian films, I think, and it will be exciting to see how people respond to it.
IW: How did you all begin acting and what is one of the best experiences you’ve had doing film and TV?
It all started when the beloved Joyce Yuen ‘encouraged’ a very reluctant me to audition for commercials, etc. There are so many, but I choose ‘Thank God You’re Here’. You have got one shot, you don’t know what the invited guest will say, you are still a virgin at this & you feel like a gladiator inside the Colosseum arena at the mercy of hundreds of audiences showing either their thumb up or… DOWN. I think the producers were more nervous than I.
When I was growing up in Manila, I always kept myself busy during the school holidays. One summer, I signed up to attend a community acting workshop organised by one of the city’s major theatre companies, PETA, which is similar to Melbourne’s MTC. I met new people and I loved the idea of being involved in something creative and collaborative. From there I started working in radio drama and I was reluctant to move to Australia as I felt my acting career was starting to take off in Manila. I think every experience is the best experience. But one that stands out for me is when I did the ABC TV series “Mercury” in the mid 90s. That series was like going to school and learning how to become a proper actor. The ensemble cast included some of the best actors in the country including Geoffrey Rush.
I kind of fell into acting. I was really focused on music for most of my life, and I was pretty certain that I wanted to be a musician. Dad’s agent, Joyce, at Phoenix Artists, knew me since I was really little and occasionally would put me up for things if she thought I was right, but it wasn’t really something I thought would grow into something. Even after working on ‘a gURLs wURLd’ I went straight back to studying music. It was actually after I got really close to and then missed out on a role I really wanted in 2011 that I realised maybe I really wanted to be an actor. I was so upset when the job fell through, I started thinking maybe I cared more about this than I thought. So I dropped out of my music course to start acting classes, and I decided to just focus on making the acting career thing work and see what happened!
Weirdly, the first thing that comes to mind (when thinking about the good experiences) isn’t a job that I booked. I did a full day audition/workshop for a feature film that I had been shortlisted for a few years ago that was probably the first time I ever “dropped in”, it was actually before I even knew what “dropping in” was. We were doing an exercise I know now was a Meisner exercise and I just really naturally went with what was happening in my body and my brain and had this really intense and awesome experience. I don’t think I’ve ever been relaxed or open enough to do that again, I’ve been so focused on chasing it! I didn’t end up getting the role, they decided to go with someone much younger, but the experience of the audition itself made me feel like I’d achieved something really important regardless.
IW: Even though you once dropped out of a music course to focus on acting, you still perform as a singer and musician. Tell us about your ongoing love of music and your current band.
I’ve been studying music since I was four, I started as a classical pianist and then picked up clarinet. I always loved writing songs, and I started to get really into jazz music in my teens. I studied jazz as a vocalist at VCA, but around the same time I decided to try to be an actor I also decided I was probably never going to be as good a “serious” musician as I wanted to be. After I left the course I got a few of my friends who are amazing jazz musicians together to play some pop songs I’d been writing, and we had heaps of fun and I thought “I could totally do this!”.
The band now (we’re called Charlotte Nicdao and the Sloth Orchestra) is a bit of a fun catastrophe of pop and jazz and wine and costumes. We are bringing out our debut EP later this year – which I’m really excited about!
IW: What has been one of the more frustrating aspects about working in film and TV?
When people ask me to do accents other than my own – I struggle with accents. Or when they assume that because I’m Asian I can speak Asian languages.
I think it is very frustrating being an Asian actor in Australia – but I think it’s also a really complex issue to verbalise. I watched the Logies this year and remember thinking: My caucasian friends whowatch this will see all these (very talented) blonde women being nominated for awards and think ‘I hope one day I get the opportunity to play a role like that’, but what I’m thinking is ‘I hope one day I get to play the best friend of a role like that’.
When I read scripts without being given a specific character to read for, I immediately gravitate to supporting roles – because I know that there’s no way I’ll be cast as the lead unless it’s specified that the character is Asian. I was born in Australia and had a pretty traditional Australian upbringing, but because of the way I look – I think it’ll be a long time before Australian film and television see me as anything but a supporting character.
Having said that – my friend Remy won the award for breakthrough performance in Better Man, the first Asian actor to win a Logie (which is insane!!), and I feel like I’m increasingly being considered for roles that aren’t specified as Asian. The landscape is changing, and I feel like I can contribute by working really hard on my craft, and not taking on roles that encouraging stereotypes.
We understand there are serious commercial considerations, however, it’s heart breaking at times to see producers/directors/script writers playing too safe and change an excellent project into a mediocre one.
IW: Who is one of the stand out inspirations and mentors in your life and why? And what advice would you give others wanting to get into film, music or the arts?
Geoffrey Rush was an inspiration. I remember coming home from a shoot one day and telling my wife how amazing this actor Geoffrey Rush was and how inspiring it was to watch him go through the process. He was not yet famous as it was just before Shine was released, but it was no surprise to me that he has gone on to so much success.
If you want to do acting because you want to be famous, don’t do it. If you want to do it because there is something inside you that you want to express and share with an audience, then give it a try. You don’t need to do a course, just get involved in any way that you can – school productions, community theatre, participating in student projects such as short films – any avenue where you can practice your skills and grow your confidence.
In the acting circle, again there are many but one who stands out is Michael Caine who is so supportive to work with, and he’s a real English gentleman.
My advice to others wanting to get into film, music or the arts is to follow your passion, your heart and have fun. If you are after money and fame only, invest first in a good crystal ball.
Obviously my Dad is a huge influence, I probably wouldn’t have even considered acting if it wasn’t something he was so passionate about. He and my Mum have been incredibly supportive of my acting work, and also made clear to me since I was little that if this is the kind of work I want to do it should be because I love it, and I want to be good at it – not because I want to be “famous”. My Dad managed to pursue his acting career and kick so many amazing goals under the most difficult of circumstances. From his childhood in Manila where this kind of ambition would’ve been ludicrous, to navigating an Australian film and TV landscape in a time that would’ve been much less open to a performer of his background, to the work he continues to approach now with so much excitement and enthusiasm – he’s a pretty inspiring man.
Only get into acting or music or the arts if you honestly couldn’t be happy doing anything else. It’s an incredibly difficult field to work in, it’s often heartbreaking and almost always an uphill battle – so if there’s another career you think would fulfil you, do that instead. But if you absolutely must be an artist – find every way possible to be as good as you can at what you do, and it can be a very rewarding way to live.
IW: Tell me Alfred, as a father, how do you feel about your daughter following you into the entertainment world, and what she’s done in her career?
She has such great creativity and courage to take this industry head on. It is a very tough and sometimes cruel industry. There are more downs than ups. But she’s resilient and realistic, and that makes me very proud.
When I first saw Charlotte in her first TV appearance in a kids show “Fergus McPhail”, I was surprised at her natural ability to perform in front of a camera. It was then that I started to worry that she was getting into this very difficult industry!
IW: What are some good memories you have about Ferdinand as your friend and peer as an actor?
With Ferdinand, it was actually when I attended the first AAFFN meeting in Melbourne a couple of years ago, and Ferdinand invited me along – one of the short films shown had his son as the lead. It made me feel so proud of him for encouraging and supporting his son to give this industry a go.
Also, with Ferdinand, when I saw him in The Quiet American. Watching him perform a scene with Michael Caine is what every actor can only dream of, any average actor would have just frozen, and Ferdinand did it with ease.
IW: What, Ferdinand, is one of your favourite memories about Alfredo and his family and his career?
I remember first meeting Alfredo during an audition in the early days and was deeply impressed by his relaxed manner (I was a nervous wreck then) and his trademark friendliness. I know his family much later and am amazed that the whole family is so arty – Louise is a very good painter among other skills; and Charlotte, her talents we are already witnessing…
I saw Alfredo in an ABC/BBC production called ‘The Bite’ in 1996 and was like WOW-ed that an Asian actor actually had lines… and worked opposite big names like Hugo Weaving, Pamela Rabe, Shane Connor, etc.
IW: Can you talk about some great memories you’ve shared with your Dad in your career and what it’s like for you to see your Dad on the screen Charlotte?
Every time I book a job (or even when I don’t end up booking it) and my Dad hugs me and says he’s proud of me is very special. Pretty sentimental answer, I know, but it’s absolutely true.
A time I’ve seen him on screen and thought, “wow, that’s my Dad!” was on Blue Heelers and we all sat down as a family to watch it and he was terrifying in the role – I almost couldn’t watch it, he made such a scary villain!
IW: What do you all most look forward to in the future for Asian Australians in the screen scene?
Maybe it will be good when there is a time when the adjective ‘Asian’ and even ‘Australian’ will be redundant to describe an actor in any screen scene? And anywhere in the world.
More multi cultural talent on our screens, more stories about real people who made Australia what it is today, more audiences watching locally made drama.
I’m looking forward to when the characters we see on screen reflect the characters we see all around us in real-life, modern Australia. Not just for Asian Australians, but performers of every ethnic background. Someday the lead in a rom-com will be an Asian man, the teen coming-of-age film will star an Indian girl and someone will write a Jason Bourne style action thriller for me to star in.
*Ferdinand’s infamous beard to rival Lawrence Leung
MEET SOME OF THE CAST AND CREW
MAXIMUM CHOPPAGE is a new six-part series coming up on ABC2 TV in 2014.
Filmed in Cabramatta and other Sydney locations. Produced by Matchbox Productions.
AAFFN’s Indigo Willing talks to some of the cast and crew about their roles and what it means to them to be doing the show.
- Tell us your name and what’s your role in this project?
Lawrence Leung. Writer of three episodes. Actor with the most lines. I play the reluctant hero Simon Chan.
- Tell us, what’s one great or funny memory of working on Maximum Choppage?
One of the best things about shooting Maximum Choppage was working with Dong Tam fight team. Their martial arts skills will make the TV audience’s jaws drop. On the last day of the film shoot, Dong Tam’s Master Trung Ly conducted a moving traditional ceremony to celebrate how far the cast/crew had come as a new filmmaking “family”.
- What inspires you to do your work?
I am always inspired by the talented people I collaborate with. You never stop learning and developing when it comes to creative practice. I’m so lucky to have collaborated with such admirable colleagues in the TV, theatre and comedy fields.
- Tell us your name and what’s your role in this project?
My name is Maria Tran and I hold multi-roles on Maximum Choppage TV Series, from Associate Producer, Extras Casting Coordinator and Stunt doubling for the lead female character “Petal”. The role interchanges between working across departments, and wrangling with extras and in between changing into outfits to get a chair hit or two. J
- Tell us, what’s one great or funny memory of working on Maximum Choppage?
My personal funny/embarrassing moment that I can’t forget is a triple attempt at kicking a fish tank over and bouncing back from the kick and the fish tank wobbling to and fro and still intact. I had an epic run off, only to hit and bounce back from the fish tank in front of a crowd.
Other crazy moments that I recall include a lot of the conundrums that the Dong Tam martial arts troupe experience include their laugh out loud boy band impersonations to crazy kinetic spectacular movements. Overall funny moments are truly watching the amazing cast we had on the show, from the trio banter between the characters of Simon, Egg & Petal (played by Lawrence Leung, Dave Eastgate & Stephanie Son) and not to mention other hilarious sideliners which you’ll see once the show is on air on ABC2 in October this year.
- What inspires you to do your work?
It is most definitely furthering Asian representation on screens and telling untold stories from this demographic. I grew up dissatisfied with Australian film and television and witness the same types of stories (mostly stereotypes) and depictions as Asians play the most obvious kinds of sidekick roles and Maximum Choppage is perhaps, Australia’s first of its kind, a huge Asian Australian casted film project set in one of Australia’s most Asian diverse regions of Cabramatta.
- Tell us your name and what’s your role in this project?
My name is Stephanie Son and I play Petal in Maximum Choppage. Petal is best friends with Simon (Lawrence Leung) and Egg (Dave Eastgate) and is a straight-talking, no BS kind of girl who’s never afraid to back away from a fight. Some might say she starts fights – but that’s just conjecture of course.
- Tell us, what’s one great or funny memory of working on Maximum Choppage?
The whole shoot of Maximum Choppage was one great experience – it’s a tough call to decide on one specific memory. I really loved shooting all the fight scenes but I guess shooting episode 5 was one of my favourites. All of us running around trying to solve a murder and then being dosed up on Mrs Chan’s ‘Horny Duck’ recipe was a riot! It was hard to keep a straight face while we were shooting.
- What inspires you to do your work?
When you’re an actor, the work itself is what’s most inspiring – which can be challenging if you’re in-between projects. But when you’re working on a project where the writing is so good and the people you work with are so talented – it’s not a hard task to get up in the morning (even if it’s 4:30am) and turn up to work because once you’re on set, the experience itself is so much fun, it’s really just playtime for an actor. Both Lawrence and Dave are so clever and funny, you can’t help but strive to be just as good as them, just as funny. We had some great supporting cast as well, including Darren Gilshenan, Amanda Bishop and Anthony Brandon Wong, who were all so wonderful to watch and act with. They’ve had so much experience that it was just a joy to be able to work with them and watch their process and learn from them. I suppose that’s what keeps me going in the end, even when I’m wondering when the next project is going to come along – that genuine curiosity and desire to keep learning – it keeps you inspired and motivated to be an actor.
- Tell us your name and what’s your role in this project?
Trung Ly. I am the Fight Choreographer for the series and my role is to assess the cast for fight action character training and devise action sequences that gel within the scope of the script adding to the story and the vision of the director, Craig Melville. Also making sure there was continuous training and evaluation of the cast before and during the shoot, plus figuring out the smashable, breakable props required for a safe and enjoyable time on set.
- Tell us, what’s one great or funny memory of working on Maximum Choppage?
The talents who’s character don’t have much of a fighting role after assessment they are actually good and the ones that have major fighting roles don’t have screen fighting experience. I find it funny it was a bit of a challenge, but it all work out in the end and we enjoyed doing it. I did throw a plate into Lawrence’s head hit him square on side, he dropped to the ground then stood up in pain and gave his lines, its was gold! really awesome scene.
- What inspires you to do your work?
I love problem solving and working with lots challenges creates an atmosphere that I belong and thrive. Also I’m very happy that something this different to mainstream TV gets made , truly it is very unique and very enjoyable to be a part of.
Directed by Craig Melville. Written by Lawrence Leung, Duncan Sarkies and Josh Mapleston. Produced by Julie Eckersley, Sophie Miller and Linda Micsko. Executive Producers: Tony Ayres and Debbie Lee. Executive Producers for ABC TV are Rick Kalowski and Brett Sleigh.
Cast includes both familiar and upcoming Asian Australians such as Lawrence Leung (Choose Your Own Adventure), Stephanie Son (Rake), Anthony Brandon Wong (The Matrix), Andy Trieu (SBS PoP Asia Special Guest and ‘Kitchen Ninja’) as well as veterans such as Ferdinand Hoang (The Quiet American). Other cast includes Dave Eastgate, Darren Gilshenan, Jason Chong, Georgina Haig, Lap Phan, Felino Dolloso and Kathryn Yuen. The fight choreography is done by Trung Ly, Maria Tran and the Dong Tam team. Composer is Joff Bush.
Maximum Choppage is due to screen in 2014. All images used for this article were supplied by Maria Tran.
Adding an international dimension to our Asian Australian interview series, AAFFN is pleased to highlight the work of Kim Woozy, an Asian American video producer and web TV founder, whose content challenges gender stereotypes and a certain invisibility in mainstream programming by focusing on women in action sports like snowboarding, skateboarding and surfing. Below is an interview she did with AAFFN’s Indigo Willing.
“If we stop comparing ourselves to this artificial idea of a perfect person and instead gather bits of inspiration from many sources, we allow ourselves to embrace our uniqueness, which makes the world a more interesting place. Isn’t it more satisfying to be the best version of yourself than a watered down version of someone else? ” – Kim Woozy, founder of MAHFIA“.
A product of the millennial generation, Kim Woozy was born and raised in the heart of Northern California’s Bay Area. Her childhood was influenced by the juxtaposition of San Francisco’s rich cultural diversity, Silicon Valley’s technological innovation and the Sierra Nevada’s epic outdoor adventures. Woozy discovered her passion for videography at seventeen when she got her hands on her first digital camcorder. Since then, Woozy has gained nearly a decade of experience in video production and youth lifestyle marketing in action sports. In 2010, Woozy founded MAHFIA, a video production company and web tv channel that exposes the untold stories of females in action sports culture. MAHFIA’s mission is to promote females for their accomplishments and offer inspiration and entertainment for girls who are interested in the creative lifestyle of skateboarding, snowboarding and surf culture. In October of 2013, Woozy gave a TEDxTalk on women’s action sports marketing titled: “If She Can Do It, So Can I”.
- What types of things have you heard girls and women say in terms of things that motivated them to get into snow boarding, skating and surfing?
The most common responses I hear from women that skate, surf, snowboard, etc. – they had a brother, boyfriend or friend(s) that did those sports. Someone was there show them the ropes. Other girls said it was because of the X Games* on TV. It inspired them to try it out because it looked fun.
- Even though action sports are becoming more popular amongst females, and with many around the world performing at exceptionally high levels, they tend to be almost invisible in mainstream media and commercial imagery (eg. Shoe and clothing companies). With Mahfia, you get to change the tide and decide who gets coverage and why. What types of things and imagery do you strive to include and cover?
With MAHFIA, our mission is to promote fun and the creative lifestyle that action sports offers. We want to show girls that these sports are really fun and aren’t just for guys.
Limited opportunities are a challenge for the top females in action sports so we aim to provide a platform for them. These girls have based their entire lives on skateboarding, surfing, snowboarding, etc. and are some of the most unique, hard working, fun-loving and inspirational people I’ve ever met! Through our lens, we hope to capture their personas and inspire others to participate in the culture.
Our tagline is “killin it softly”, which means that you achieve success by working hard and being humble – you are the best at what you do but you aren’t shouting it from the top of a mountain. We like promote this motto and the idea of creating your identity through your accomplishments and skills rather than hype or surface level characteristics.
- In a Ted X talk you gave in November 2013, you speak of ‘possibility models’ rather than ‘role models’, the latter who tend not to reflect a wide range of the population. Possibility models, you emphasized, are able to inspire without people having unrealistic expectations or standards they have to measure up against. What are some of the pressures girls and women get to farewell once they stop trying to be like mainstream ‘role models’ and start embracing a bigger range of possibility models?
The problem with mainstream culture today is that public figures or “role models” are generally one-dimensional, lack diversity (both physically and intellectually) and are often just puppets designed by large corporations in order to make money. This is a dangerous foundation for young girls and females in general. If we embrace “possibility models” and look to real people for inspiration, our goals and dreams become much more attainable, diverse and authentic. If we stop comparing ourselves to this artificial idea of a perfect person and instead gather bits of inspiration from many sources, we allow ourselves to embrace our uniqueness, which makes the world a more interesting place. Isn’t it more satisfying to be the best version of yourself than a watered down version of someone else?
- As an Asian American, you stated that one of your own ‘possibility models’ was Kristi Yamaguchi, a figure skater, even though you played basketball and other sports. Can you talk a little about why Kristi Yamaguchi was influential to you?
Back in the 90’s, there really weren’t any Asian-Americans or Asians period in mainstream media. At that point in my life I didn’t know of any Asian females (in real life or in media) who really excelled at sports. Seeing Kristi Yamaguchi in the spotlight was monumental and became a turning point for me. It was the first time I had ever seen an Asian female achieve a high level of athletic success. She was a huge inspiration. I didn’t necessarily want to be an ice skater but she made it desirable for me to be an athletic Asian female. She encouraged me to keep playing sports and helped me embrace my identity as an ‘athlete’.
- Who else might have been a possibility model to you more recently?
More recently, my possibility models have been real people in my life – mostly my older friends that I look up to. Being an Asian-American female trying to work my way up in the action sports industry, which is predominantly run by white males, I used to feel slightly out of place. A few years ago I heard about a woman named YuLin Olliver who started out as a competitive snowboarder and eventually became the Marketing Director at Fuel TV as well as Street League Skateboarding. When I finally met her, she instantly became a mentor and now is a good friend of mine. I try to surround myself with people who are talented, hard working, positive and they have all become “possibility models” for me in some way.
Another recent possibility model of mine is entrepreneur/chef/tv host Eddie Huang. I follow his web series “Fresh Off the Boat” on VICE.tv and also read his book. Like me, his parents are from Taiwan and he grew up in America in the 90’s. In his book and on his show, he addresses Asian-American identity and explores immigrant culture in various countries around the world through food. Eddie is a young Asian-American entrepreneur in the spotlight who happens to be intelligent and hilarious. He breaks all the stereotypes of Asians in media and has definitely inspired me to keep doing what I am doing.
- One of the central messages from your Ted X talk seems to include that we can all work hard at and get fulfilment from something if we find what’s right for us, have passion and get support. What were some of the ways you found supporters and momentum to develop Mahfia?
MAHFIA came about mainly through the support and collaboration with the professional female athletes and women in the action sports industry who I became friends with after working on the Girls brand at Osiris Shoes. We often had long discussions about what’s missing in our industry for females. The foundation of MAHFIA was built on conversations that started with, “Dude, it would be sick if…” I also teamed up with my college classmate, Jonathan Villegas, who is an extremely talented video producer and editor. We share a deep love for action sports and have the same artistic style and vision when it comes to video production. Without his support, there would definitely be no MAHFIA. One of the main reasons why MAHFIA materialized beyond just an idea is because I surrounded myself with like-minded people who gave me the courage and motivation I needed. Again, it comes back to having an environment of people who are constantly inspiring me to push forward. As for business, it wasn’t easy in the beginning but we are starting to see more brands become interested in the female market. Slowly but surely people are starting to understand the value in what we are doing.
- Mahfia goes against the stereotype of females being passive spectators of action sports culture. Can you tell us about some of the positive feedback have you had from people who were unaware of how popular and how advanced girls and women are from viewing your channel and social media content?
My favorite thing is getting emails and messages from people around the world that are genuinely stoked on our videos and what we are doing. I’ve gotten messages from parents, males and females from every corner of the earth saying that they are so excited that they found a website that features girls in action sports. My favorite ones are from girls who tell me they are the only girl in their town who skates, etc and they feel like a freak but then they see our videos and get hyped that there are other girls doing these sports. It’s my absolute favorite type of message because that’s the exact reason why I started MAHFIA.
- How might your background as an Asian American influenced or sensitised you to valuing the power of media and giving females a voice?
As an Asian-American growing up in the 90’s I always felt like an outsider. It’s odd because it wasn’t that there was a lack of people that looked like me – I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area, there was a pretty solid Asian demographic around me. It was that the idea of being an “American” at the time didn’t really encompass minorities. Asians were not represented in any media – movies, TV shows, magazines, etc. In high school I remember wishing that I was more “white” – I started dying my hair blonde and wearing skate/surf brands. Being an Asian female and an athlete was definitely abnormal. I didn’t fit in with the Asian kids because I was a “jock” but I wasn’t truly a jock because I was still an Asian kid. Academics always came first but luckily my parents supported me in whatever hobbies I liked and they never made me feel wrong for being different. I did have to go through a phase of wearing dresses and going to piano recitals when I was younger but luckily they let me quit when I told them it made me miserable. That being my background, I am committed to telling my story and other non-traditional stories so that other kids out there can relate and understand that being unique is actually really awesome. Media is such a powerful tool, especially in today’s world. It’s so important that we tell our own stories and shape our culture collectively instead of letting other people do it for us.
- Have you done and do you have any future plans to travel abroad to do any special overseas pieces for Mahfia?
Yes, definitely! Traveling abroad is always one of my main priorities. We’ve been to Germany, Canada, Singapore, Spain, Japan and Taiwan so far. Most recently we are working on a new series that will be released later this year that includes a few episodes that feature girls action sports culture in Tokyo and Taipei. I am really excited about that and hope to continue to travel to Asia to shoot more. We’ve also been talking about going to Brazil for some time now — the skate scene there is amazing and I would love to go. Action sports culture is growing rapidly all over the world, it’s really an exciting time.
- Have you any plans to come to Australia and collaborate with locals?
For sure! We actually almost came out this year to film Lizzie Armanto for Penny Skateboards who is one of our brand partners based in Australia. Unfortunately the trip had to be rescheduled but Australia is definitely on our future agenda. I’ve never been and I’ve been wanting to visit for a very long time now. I can’t wait!
- Anything else you would like to add?
For all the girls out there that have ever thought about stepping on a skateboard, strapping on a snowboard, paddling out on a surfboard OR picking up a camera, my advice would be to GO FOR IT! Find a way to make it happen and don’t be discouraged if you aren’t good at it at first. Everyone sucks when they start out. But if you stick with it, I guarantee it will change your life forever.
*To find out more about the challenges female athletes face also see Underexposed: A Women’s skateboarding documentary.
All images are kindly provided by MAHFIA and feature females doing their thing – killin it softly.